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Just because we threatend suit is hardly cause not to go forward with your demenstration!
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Written by Daniel   
Thursday, 01 March 2007 09:12
HID, IOActive Butt Heads Again
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FEBRUARY 28, 2007 | ARLINGTON, Va. -- Black Hat DC -- HID Global and IOActive squared off face-to-face here today, after an IOActive researcher's briefing was yanked from the agenda this week following threats of a patent lawsuit by HID. (See Black Hat Cancels RFID Demo.)

The two remained at an impasse after Black Hat pulled together an impromptu RFID panel, minus IOActive's cloner research that prompted the debate, which included the ACLU, the Department of Homeland Security's US-CERT, and an RFID vendor who also does research. The panel re-convened in the Black Hat pressroom for a press conference, where it beat the drum some more.

HID spoke up publicly for the first time, and maintained that it had asked IOActive not to reveal source code, schematics, and to provide its solution to the flaws. "[We asked them] not to specifically target HID any more or less than any other vendor and to present solutions" to the problem, says Mike Davis, director of technology in the intellectual property department of HID.

"It was not a cease and desist" order, he says.

But IOActive sees it differently. Chris Paget, the researcher who built the RFID cloner and had planned to demonstrate it, says the ball is in HID's court. "It's up to HID to remove the threat of litigation so we can move forward and can talk in much greater detail," says Paget, director of research and development for IOActive.

Dan Kaminsky, director of penetration testing for IOActive, noted that the engineering side of the debate is less a conflict than the legal part. "I see no conflict" there, he says. "We could have worked together as engineers.

"Unfortunately, their initial communication with us was on legal grounds with very specific legal threats," Kaminsky says, adding that IOActive had no choice but to meet HID's demands and pull the presentation....More

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